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Old 28-11-2011, 15:46   #61
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so you are shutting up and leveling up? im just having a laugh buddy
I'm not serious my man, just pointing out that the more I play, the less time I'm actually on here talking about playing.

Think I'm starting to get the balance right but still, I dont want to be left out of the community!

Ok, I'm back to shutting up....I mean levelling up...er I mean......ah forget it.



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Old 29-11-2011, 00:37   #62
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you wont level up until you think you might have played desk online then make a thread about it, then you will have leveld up
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Old 09-02-2012, 14:45   #63
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Just wanted to thank everybody that have taken the time to school me at this game and advise me so far.

Really appreciated the very brief chat with Unstoppable DJ (and I think Logan had an input) last week before WSO regarding the importance of playing ranked matches to build up matchup knowledge and experience – and playing without the fear of losing that elusive PP!

I think I’ve finally reached a point where I realise where I’ve been failing with this game and can now get passed it. I’m sharing this with the hope of inspiring others who may have thought the same way. Up until this point I really enjoyed playing the game but absolutely despised losing at it! These feelings were further exasperated by the online ranking system and the cruel mistress that is PP.

When I play COD I don’t care what my kill/death ratio is. As a consequence of this I’m a lot more cool headed when I play it and can move swiftly on from losses or bad play. The consequence of this is that I can handle playing a lot more of the game as I find it far less stressful – exposing myself to more of the game and building up knowledge as I go along. In short: the consequences of losing or not doing well are minimal to me and so don’t hinder my enjoyment of the game, thus I play more. I relate this to perhaps how I should have begun playing SF4 or any other FG. I understand that the curve is certainly steeper but the principle is the same. What was hindering my ability to progress in this game was the inability to deal with and recover from losses, relegating me to training room play or random Endless battles – where I could stomach a loss.

One phrase has help elevate my way of thinking about levelling up my game: Play online to learn, not to win. Genius. In this instance win or lose you always gain something. It sounds simplistic but with this mentality my enjoyment of the game has increased considerably. I consider myself a real novice, going up against seasoned players more often than not. With my initial mentality (of win, win, WIN!) anything less than a win was a fail. Repeated failure was too demoralising and resulted in regressing back to training mode – and inevitably COD!

The discussion that led to this realisation was how playing Ranked battles at least meant that the opponent would have an interest in winning (less likely to get trolled!). Messing about in Endless with people who aren’t trying to play a serious game (apart from the odd planned sessions with a few heads from here) wouldn’t be doing me as much good. Plus it limits my exposure to a select few characters unless I find rooms with people skilled with more than one character. Additionally the downtime between matches would often lead to room-hopping, which itself would just add to more downtime. Arghhhh!

Lesson learnt: You can have all the fancy sticks, watch all the streams and analyse every youtube vid in the world but without the right mindset you won’t find success in this game or genre for that matter.



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well said frank, I am back in the uk for a bit if you want games
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Bad. Good luck with progressing man, you got the right idea.

Now just bun that game and start playing KOF
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Old 27-02-2012, 14:28   #66
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Shoutouts to everybody that went to the Shadowloo Showdown Qualifier in London yesterday. This was my first tournament other than WSO and I really enjoyed myself, despite crashing out early!

I’d particularly like to thank all the people I got to speak to before and during the tournament. Of note were Chuckdot and friend (real-talk, you guys gave me a lot to think about and I really look forward to some online sessions), Darkscythe (thanks again for the training tips, don’t forget to send me an invite for your next Endless!), JHeez and SovietWolf X (not bad for a first tourney was it!?). Thanks also to Emperor Cow and Conqueror Kenny as you’re always giving me some input every time I see you guys. Also shoutout to F-Word; however brief I try to take something from every conversation I have.

One thing I appreciate a lot more after this is the importance of the social aspect of competitive gaming. Those that have seen me around may notice I never come to WSO with anybody; neither did I bring anyone to yesterday’s event, despite making a point of talking to as mush people as I can whilst there. Reason being (yes, I do have friends, lol!) is that sometimes I just enjoy being around people with shared interests – anybody who works full-time in an environment with people who they normally wouldn’t socialise with, or who gets that blank look from friends when you even mention fighting games, should know what I’m talking about. This aspect alone made me want to stay at the event longer, as I never knew who I’d speak to next and what I might learn about/from them.

Look forward to seeing some of you again soon. Remember: what may seem obvious to you with your experience might never have dawned on me!




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Old 27-02-2012, 16:03   #67
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For me, the social aspect is also one of the most important things about the fighting game scene, if not THE single most important thing. I know what you are talking about as my friends also look at me strangely when I mention I go to videogame tournaments and the likes
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Old 22-03-2012, 08:46   #69
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Big shoutout to the players I spoke to down at WSO this past Tuesday for AE.

Special thanks to RMZ and Ryan Hart for the mini training room sesh and discussions before the tournament (and the chocolates). This is the reason I started coming down to WSO in the very first place – to learn! RMZ, let’s set up something online like you said; I feel like I could learn a lot from you. Thanks also to Taaha for getting in my ear about zoning and anti-airing just before my match with WGE. It paid didvidends!

I really appreciated talking with Andreas after being blown up (on stream) with an almost double-perfect. I dropped that combo into Ultra in Round 2 of our first game which would have won me that game, but then you proceeded to teach me a lesson in humility and mental fortitude – ggs. And as for our discussion afterwards; I believe the way I think (or don’t think) during a match is one the biggest factors hindering my game at the moment - second only to lack of match-up experience – and you help show me that. I’m sure many are guilty of auto-pilot and attack string patterns but as a Ryu player without any real mix-ups or shenanigans this poses a real problem. These days I’m trying to play more solid, slow the tempo down in my head and learn my opponent’s attack patterns, like how they react to what I’m doing and what they like to do on their/my wakeup etc. Sometimes I come off looking free but I’m still progressing, still learning….. And I absolutely must remember to DELAY THAT CROUCH-TECH!!!! Timing is almost perfect online but when offline I get frame-trapped/counter-hit for big damage too often.

I’m glad people are still supporting this game because as long as a tournament is run for it I’ll continue to come down and play/learn/support. Online seems to have thinned out now leaving only those serious about the game. Good news for me as I was often kicked from Endless lobbies for having a paltry 2600pp, but now with the slim pickings of players available they let me stay! And I feel I hold my own to boot!


I will play SFxT but on a much more casual basis. I don’t hate the game but I haven’t attained a certain level yet in SF4 to start concentrating energies into something else.


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Alot of people need your mentality in the UK at the moment.

Plus your rep bar is low for what it should be.

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Old 27-03-2012, 04:56   #71
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Well how is your leveling up , your will and determination is good , it's about time someone stopped whining and do the dirt for once . Have you thought about playing anything else ?

KOF !!!!!
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Give the games above , you seem to have your head screwed on pretty tight and you can go quite far . If you do have any free weekends get a few guys together and come down to the HOG GG's there are pretty much infinite, I haven't seen you play but you come across as someone who's getting better and better


Keep up the Good work , try and expand what you play
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Give the games above , you seem to have your head screwed on pretty tight and you can go quite far . If you do have any free weekends get a few guys together and come down to the HOG GG's there are pretty much infinite, I haven't seen you play but you come across as someone who's getting better and better


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Lol thank you for the correction must say your list is better
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Hey there fellas


Personally it's been going great. I'm focusing on SF4 at the moment and learning specific matchups with help from the guys I've met at WSO. I actually have SFxT, KOF 13, Blazeblue CS, SF3:OE and even UMVC3 but finding time to play them all was spreading myself to thin!

Realising now how valuable offline is to learning a game properly I have considered going down to HOG to try and learn KOF13. That would be my only real chance of learning a game so foreign to me - in an environment of people knowledgeable and enthusiastic about the game - since I've never played an SNK game period. Was interested in Blazeblue too and I was reading about some regular meets for this game.

For now though I'm in the lab with SF4 and making sure I'm down at WSO EVERY week. Enjoying that so much actually that I find it hard to play online at home now! In the meantime, if any of you HOG heads wanna take a student under your wing and have the patience to school him in all things KOF13, hit me up!





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